Latortue's House of Cards Crumbling in Haiti.
November 11, 2004
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Latortue's House of Cards Crumbling in Haiti.

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Flashpoints Interviews Pina, November 9, 2004

Echevarria: Straight up, what do make of this...floating up right now to the

rest of the news, that the Haitian police are murdering Aristide

supporters. What do you make of this actually breaking through the hard

fought for silence on the part of the corporate media?

Pina: It's just that finally the killing has reached such a level that no

one can continue to deny it. It's been going on relentlessly since the

forced ouster of President Aristide on February 29th. The most interesting

news that's most recently surfaced of course is that there are nineteen

police officers who have just been implicated in a plot to assassinate

Lavalas political prisoners in the capital. That would include Prime

Minister Yvon Neptune, Interior Minister Jocelerme Privert, Father Gerard

Jean Juste, and a long list of hundreds who are being held in the capital.

Now, whether that extends to the thousands in the countryside, we don't

know how vast the plot was. You know I'm usually very critical of the

corporate media - that includes Reuters - but I do have to tip my hat to

Guyler Delva, who broke that story, otherwise we never would have heard

about it. But of course those nineteen officers, who are now under

investigation for plotting to assassinate Aristide supporters in the

jails, are getting what is the equivalent of a slap on the wrist and being

told to stay after school. They are only being placed under special orders

to appear at the police force's general inspection office daily, from 8

A.M. to 4 P.M. they say, the allegations have been resolved.

Well, no one is being reprimanded, no one is being summarily fired;

basically, it's a slap on the wrist, even though what has come to surface

is that there are active forces within the Haitian police who have been

plotting to assassinate Lavalas political prisoners in the jail cells in

Port au Prince.

Echevarria: Now in fact this is very much a danger of the fox guarding the

henhouse in terms of this investigation. The list that you just

mentioned...of potential assassinations, if you will, has some pretty heavy

names on it. What do you think that this tells [us] about the impunity

with which the police have- especially with the backing of the Latortue

regime - have had with respect to being able to carry out their


Pina: The Haitian police force is now almost entirely [made up of] former

military. This is the same Haitian military that committed tremendous

atrocities in 1991 after Aristide was forced from office in a brutal

military coup. This is the same military that was heavily involved in drug

trafficking. The Haitian police may not be called the Haitian military but

it in fact is the Haitian military today that constitutes the Haitian

police. There's also other interesting news that's recently come out,

which is that Roselor Julien who was the Cathoilic Church representative,

resigned yesterday from...the council that's preparing for the so-called

free and fair elections that are supposed to be held next year in 2005.

She resigned saying that she did so because she did not want to condone an

electoral farce. So not only are we seeing a lot of killing by the police,

extrajudicial killings, arbitrary detentions, but now the entire reason

why the United States and France and Canada justified this intervention -

which was to hold new elections - is falling apart completely.

First of all,, Lavalas has already said that they will not participate in

the elections and now the electoral council, which is preparing for them,

is completely in disarray. And then of course it's hilarious to hear

Brazil announce yeaterday that its forces are going to extend their stay

in Haiti until the next elections are held in 2005. So apparently, Brazil

isn't even considering whether these elections are going to be free and

fair; they really just want to get this process over because they're

getting a lot of heat at home. Another interesting note about Brazil is

that last October 22nd the Defense Minister of Brazil, Jose Diegas,

resigned, because the Brazilian military had made a statement early in

October. The military high command had said that the military cuop that

the Brazilian military did in 1964 had been the result of "a popular call

in response to the subversive movement which had turned down dialogue."

Well who does that sound like? That sounds like Lavalas in Haiti today, so

it gives the appearance that what the Brazilian military cannot get away

with in its own country today, it's enjoying doing in Haiti.

Echeverria: That actually brings to me a question with respect to Brazil

and Haiti's relationship with CARICOM, and it seems to be in a very

uncomfortable position, because it just doesn't know what to do with

respect to the Latortue regime. How do you think that that plays into it?

Pina: There is another CARICOM meeting this week; I don't think there's

going to be any resolution, I don't think anything is going to change

because...the countries of Guyana, St. Kitts, St. Vincent-Grenadines have

said under no condition would they recognize the Latortue regime until it

did everything to disarm the former military. Well, how can you say

they're disarming the former military when now what they are doing is

simply turning them into Haitian police and giving them guns? Of course

now the United States has lifted the 13-year old arms embargo against

Haiti, which started back in 1991 after the first military coup against

Aristide, so you've got the former military being rehabilitated into the

police, and the police being,in fact, a de facto military force, being

re-armed and resupplied by the United States lifting that 13-year old

embargo. I don't think there's any way that CARICOM at this point, can

come to any resolution and they require a consensus, as you know, I don't

believe that they'll be able to find that consensus to recognize that

government given the current mayhem and disarray on the ground in Haiti


Echevarria: I want to jump back just a few seconds to the elections and

what this resignation means. Do you think that may be a sign that, with

Latortue, that the fa\xe7ade may be starting to crumble a little bit?

Pina: Well, this resignation came on the heels of the business community.

Andy Apaid, who is the leader of the Group of 184, which was the so-called

opposition against Aristide, tried to shove down the electoral

commission's throat a $112 million proposal to actually have the balloting

be electronic during the next elections. Well how can you have electronic

ballotting in Haiti when areas of the capital don't receive more than six

hours of electricity per day? The person who resigned, Roselor Julien,

also stated that [that] it was a railroading and setting up [of] the

process so that Group of 184 could win the elections, to basically

legitimize the coup against Aristide February 29th. Now, in essence,

that's what Roselor Julien has stated.

Echevarria: Now you mentioned earlier that Lavalas has publicly stated

that they are going to boycott the elections. Doesn't that present a

danger that, by virtue of the fact that they don't present themselves at

the polls, that, just by defualt, that Latortue's regime would just take

control that way?

Pina: It's one thing to win unfair in an electoral farce, if you will.

It's quite another to rule without an electoral mandate. I think that the

international community; there's no way they're going to be able to

legitimize those elections if, indeed what I believe will be the case is

there's going to be a very low voter turnout...Lavalas is not only going to

boycott the elections as an organization, but I believe their base of

popular support are just simply not going to go to the polls; you're not

going to see long lines, and you're not going to see a high voter turnout;

you're going to see a very low voter turnout and I think its going to make

it increasingly difficult for the Latortue regime or whoever comes

afterwards, to claim that they have a mandate that represents the Haitian

people. And if you see the disarray that's going on on the ground right

now, it's only going to increase and get worse particularly after you have

this electoral farce in 2005.

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